he talked about the concept of being a protector, he said all of us can protect the environment, can protect the poor, can protect our families. i thought it was meaningful particularly to not to mistake tenderness for weakness, not to mistake caring, those are strong virtues and he questioned what is real power, and real power authentic power is in service. >> i'm glad you said that about that message of don't mistake tenderness for weakness. father barron, this is a gentle man, a humble man. he's been called authentic especially over these last five or six days, let's be honest he doesn't, he's going to have to be a rather tough man to shake up this church in the way a lot of people want it shaken up. >> absolutely. he's a man of franciscan simplicity. the clear indication was we need a pope who with clean things up, make personnel change, bring greater accountability, transparency, and make no mistake, they chose him partially for that reason. so he'll make some tough moves. >> we saw the scene where the new pope was surrounded by some members of the old guard church hierarchy. we